Backspin push

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mts288
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I'm a 1600 level player.  When I serve a heavy backspin at my club, some of my opponents appear to push it back, but when I follow with a push I pop the ball up.  It's clear that they are probably lifting the ball or using some other technique to return the ball without backspin.  What should I be looking for to determing if I'm getting spin or no?

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Re: Backspin push

This is actually a useful tip you're asking for. I've had this problem too, but after some time of practising with those people who used to play those returns against me, I finally got used to it and had no problems with that king of responses. Hope you're good with it now and can response back with an even better show ! :) Don't know if it's still here, but I've pointed out this problem on my table tennis blog a bunch of months ago.

Larry Hodges
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Re: Backspin push

It sounds like you are getting no-spin push returns. I'm surprised that more than one player is doing this against you, assuming they are using inverted sponge - it's not a common shot, even at the higher levels. (At lower levels, players can't control it or haven't learned to do it; at higher levels players tend to loop it for winners as it's not as tricky as, say, a no-spin serve that looks like backspin.) Or is it possible these opponents are using some other surface, such as long pips, antispin, or short pips?

Assuming it's inverted, then they are likely pushing no-spin. There are two ways of doing this. One is that they snap their wrist through the ball after contact, making it appear to be heavy backspin when the actual racket acceleration takes place after contact. This is the more common way. The other way is to contact the ball near the base of the racket, which is normally moving slower than the tip, and so you get less backspin. This is harder to control. 

 

 

mts288
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Re: Backspin push

Thanks Larry.  Two of my three closest rivals at the club use this return with inverted.  They're not even using much wrist motion, I think that I'm just not paying attention. 

Larry Hodges
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Re: Backspin push

One of them probably learned to do it on his own, and the other two copied him. Why not copy it yourself, but do them one better by using a vigorous wrist snap after contact to make yours even trickier?