Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

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Boneman
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Since the hardbat forum continues to remain closed, thought I'd post up here.  Been looking for an alternative to the $2 a piece "Glue Sheets" that are on the market.  I was using a double-faced adhesive sheet that we use at work for mounting printed artwork to bainbridge board... but it seems to loose it's adhesive qualities over time.

Strange... as usually when an adhesive "cures"... it becomes dubiously tenacious....  Yet I've got sheets of rubber lifting at the edges... and nearly literally falling off the doggone blade.

No.. I'm not big on glueing harbat rubber.  I find it to be a PITA... so glue sheets are a wonderful alternative... I just can't see paying that kind of money for something that's not much more than double-faced tape.

Anyone using a working alternative out there?

TIA
 

Larry "Boneman" Bone
Dingmans Ferry, PA

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Boneman
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Re: Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

Son of a bit... bit... BITTER OLD WOMAN!!!!

Received my glue sheets from Paddle Palace and re-affixed the rubber on my Toxic 5 with it.  Mind you, I've enough experience to know to alcohol the rubber so it's squeaky clean prior....

Get it all together... and stick the bat under a pile of books for the overnight... as is my usual and customary procedure....

All that done and done days ago... drag the bat out last night for an evening's play... and I'll be throttled to see the rubber starts lifting all around the edges.

angry

 

Mind you... it's only this ONE SHEET... of Gambler Peacekeeper OX.....  I just don't get it... so apparantly it wasn't so much the material I was using to fix it to the blade... as it is this one silly piece of rubber seemingly is just downright stubborn as to not adhering.

For now, I've stuck the bat in my Clicky Press (Yeah... I know... weird to have a hardbat in one of them things) and it will stay there until next week when I get to play again....

Anyone else ever come across this odd bahviour in a rogue sheet of rubber???

Later!

Bones

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Re: Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

I don't like glue sheets. I have some in case a customer specifically asks, but I usually warn them not to. I still use rubber cement. The "alarms" wear out in about a week so it passes the sniff test.

CHEERS! 

Boneman
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Re: Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

All good stuff.  I've had great success and great failures with tear mender for sure.  Was wondering Jay, had you ever had any luck getting it to adhere to a lacquer sealed blade?  It seems to... but then once it starts lifting... it just rolls off.....  BTW... Tear mender is a BEAR to get off linen-backed Valor Premier.

 As to the other contact cement kind of stuff... I've not tried that but have used rubber cement in that fashion with a modicum of success.  Might look into that in the future.  It's interesting though... how some rubber reacts madly to the heptane thinners in rubber cement... whereas others seem impervious to it's effectc.

I broke down and ordered some glue sheets.  They're inbound and will use them.... additionally, and yeah, I know it's more a spongebat thing... I ordered a Yasaka "Clicky Press" to keep things evenly compressed until the adhesives cure a bit.

And forget trying to find decent hadbat width edge-tape anymore.  U usually just use "hockey" tape... hand trimmed to width with an aluminium yardstick and a new, sharp #11 X-acto blade.

 

 

 

Willis
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Re: Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

Put glue on sheet and blade as thin and even as possible (I use Butterfly Free Chack). Let dry COMPLETELY. 

Now, place a sheet of wax paper on the blade and leave about 1/2 inch exposed near the handle. Carefully lay the rubber on the wax paper portion, then once it's lined up, pull it down slowly into its final position and press down to get a good "stick."

Now you should be able to pull the wax paper out another inch and stick. Repeat until the rubber is completely stuck and then using some kind of roller, lightly roll up and down and diagonally. I usually use my fingers and run around the outside edges to make sure everything is good and "stuck." Then you can turn the blade over and cut off the excess. After cutting, I usually roll it again, especially near the edges. When rolling try to NOT roll hard because that can distort the rubber or give it excess tension.

If you get any bubbles, use the tip of an Exacto blade to poke the bubble and then gently press out the bubble with your finger and it will disappear.

 

 

Jay Turberville
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Re: Hardbat rubber and glue sheets. Looking for alternative.

No.  I've used some glue sheets and they seemed OK to me, but I mostly use TearMender.  Rubber cement should work fine as well.  You might want to try stapling the rubber to its cardboard packaging before applying the rubber cement.  That will keep the rubber from wrinkling up.  Once the rubber cement is dried the rubber will lay flat on its own and you can apply it to the blade fairly easily.